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A double dutch Lancia Dilambda Boneschi Mystery? (Upd. IV: not a Dilambda but a Lambda?)

Gerard Lansink is interested to learn more about this spectacular 1931 Dilambda roadster commissioned from Boneschi by an unknown Dutchman. This car No. 19 did participate in the  Coupe des Alpes 1932 or 1934, however it is not sure who were in the car. Googling the subject, Gerard found that a certain Mr. Scholten (also Dutch) did participate in the Coupe de Alpes in 1932 and 1934. This was in a Lancia, but not necessarily in this Lancia, maybe that was a Lambda. Reason why Gerard got intrigued by the subject is because he is recreating a Lancia Dilambda Spyder similar to this Boneschi, based on a rolling chassis he obtained from Jack Braam Ruben & Bruno Vendiese. Who can bring in some knowledge about this specific car?

The photo is from the collection of Wim Oude Weernink. Aside the great Lancia we are equally intrigued by the cars in the background. Can any of you identify those?

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29 Luglio 2016, 02:11
Gildo Strazza drove a number of cars and it is possible to become confused. I've not done a definitive study but my notes show the following:

#101 Lambda(chassis 20622) (with Gismondi) on the Mille Miglia 12-13 April 1930 rit. (DNF)

#48 Lambda VIII series (2570cc)(with Vigo) on the Giro di Sicilia 26-27 April 1930, 4th o/a

#___ Lancia Strazza / X on the Circuito di Tre Provincie 10 August 1930, 4th o/a

#105 Mercedes SSK (Maino/Strazza) on the Mille Miglia 12 April 1931 rit. (DNF)

#(19?) Dilambda (Strazza/Valentino) on the Giro di Sicilia 3 May 1931, 5th o/a

#___ Mercedes Strazza on the Susa - Moncenisio hill-climb 5 July 1931 where he won the over 3000cc category

#88 Lancia Lambda (motore Dilambda) (Strazza/Gismondi) on the Mille Miglia 10 April 1932, 8th o/a ("over 3-liter category")

#___ Lancia Astura (Strazza) Biella - Oropa hill-climb 29 June 1932, 9th o/a (first non-supercharged finisher)

#___ Lancia 4280cc (Strazza) Klausen (Swiss hill-climb) 6-7 August 1932 8th o/a (1st/ 3000cc-5000cc)

#82 Dilambda (Strazza / Gismondi) on the Mille Miglia 8-9 April 1933, 11th o/a (1st/ over 3000cc)

#___ Lancia 4277cc (Strazza) on the Klausenrenner 5 August 1934, 11th o/a (1st/ 3000cc - 5000cc)

#78 Lancia 4277cc (Como plate) on the VIII Targa Abruzzo (Pescara 24 hours)on 11 August 1935, 5th o/a

There will be more if I look some more.

John de Boer
The Italian Car Registry
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16 Giugno 2016, 11:34
It truly amazes me that having this car positively identified as a Dilambda, by what obviously is an expert on the subject, being given all the details of the car and its crew as participants on the 7th Sicily Tour in 1931, you still manage to include, in an update to your heading, the doubt cast by the next respondent to reply several months later, who simply states: - " the car is not dilambda it is lambda". This, without providing any proof of his statement whatsoever. There certainly appears to be no doubt that the car in the picture is a Dilambda, therefor your update IV in your heading just creates doubt amongst your reader and smacks of a touch of sensationalism.
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05 Luglio 2011, 19:33
the car is not dilambda it is lambda
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10 Maggio 2011, 11:01
Paolo Giusti the Italiën administrator of viva lancia.com wrote:
It is the Lancia Dilambda Bonneschi Spyder at the 7th Sicily Tour in 1931 in 2 stages 965 Km. 36 cars started 17 finished. The first competition af a Dilambda. The house is Villa Riserva Vendicari of the Duke of Noto near Ragusa. Driver Ermenegildo Strazza / Luigi Gismondi. Category winners of Mille Miglia 1933 and 4th overall.
Regards, Gerard Lansink.
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16 Gennaio 2011, 13:25
White car could be a 2,5 Wanderer W11. It has badge similar to those used by this company from late 20s. I have similar car during full restoration but original body was replaced by similar to white car. Wanderer W11 was like toaday's Astra classic. It was first time on the market from 1928-1933(4?) and later in 3 liter form as Kubelwagen. What can confirmed is that after this note I have checked starting list and BINGO there is Wanderer. It coulb W14 but there was just few (around ten?) of them
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14 Gennaio 2011, 08:20
Hello,
the Lancia that participated with Captn Frost in the 1934 Coupe des Alpes was a Lancia Augusta with a March body, starting number 134. This car is now in Belgium.
Kind regards,
Jan
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13 Gennaio 2011, 20:45
The car with number 22 is Fiat 521C.
F 522 has rounder radiator.
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13 Gennaio 2011, 18:19
In the VI Coupe Internationale des Alpes
7-12 August 1934 participated only one Lancia driven by Capt. O.H.Frost/Beckett (http://www.teamdan.com/archive/www2/miscral/34miscra.html)

In the IV Coupe Internationale des Alpes
28 July-4 August 1932 participated 2 Lancia's: E.H. Scholten and one Amos Damiani in a Astura (http://www.teamdan.com/archive/www2/miscral/32miscra.html)

I cannot find starting numbers
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13 Gennaio 2011, 12:08
Hello!
The first car in the background of the Lancia, with the number 22, appears to be a Fiat 522 with six cylinder motor from 1930-1932.
The other white car in the background is much more difficult!
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13 Gennaio 2011, 11:16
Was Sheldon an Rabagliati's A Record of Grand Prix and Voiturette Racing Volume 3 (1932-1936 - The growth of international single seater racing) checked ? This should provide names of the drivers of car nrs. 19 and 22. Alas this is the only volume of the series of interest that I haven't been able to get hold of (yet).
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