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Letter to the editor

Charleston County, S.C., U.S.A. is not a large place but is home to one of the most notable but probably most unknown Bugatti enthusiasts. After the war, Ron (Ray!) Jones moved his family from the U.S.A. to France, selling most of what he owned and buying everything he could from the original Bugatti factory. Anecdotally he told me the foreman would weigh the scrap by hand, guess the material and offer a price on that basis. I visited the family a few weeks back and came away with the enclosed photo. The body is replacement, all else is original, some 300 b.h.p. and with history. The engine apparently has a few small cracks but is pretty drivable and heck, what is a little steam from the exhaust to stop the fun!

Chris Leigh-Jones

Originally published on March 29th, 2022

 

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domenica agosto 18th, 2024
Steven Alsheimer
19 Agosto 2024, 05:17
Mr. Jones was a very intelligent engineer. My father, Steve Sr., ended up moving into one of Ray's old shops in Mount Pleasant, S.C., I'd say back around 1999. I had the privilege of meeting Ray when he was 92; he was still building cars at the time. He did size down a good bit and move his things into his home with a sizable garage.

My father was also Ray's plumber and plumbed his house. Ray has since passed away along with my father and many more. I loved seeing Ray, it was a history tour every time I got to go to his place for a service call—it was fascinating to say the least. He hand-built the bodies to specification since he had all the original blueprints from when he purchased the old factory's. He formed them over a wooden buck he had hand-made, and when he was done he burned the bucks to ashes and dumped them into the Intracoastal Waterway to never be seen again, haha!

Ray designed things for the military, the Lincoln Motor Co. and I'm sure more. He had a third-grade education and was smarter than anyone I know from college. His wife was a kind woman and, much like Ray, an avid collector. She had many rare and unique dolls hand-made with so much detail they in fact looked real. Anyhow, I still see the Bugatti blue on dad's shop floor to this day. Ray was such a model of a man and the epitome of "living the dream."

R.I.P. Mr. Jones, and Dad as well!
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Rick
30 Marzo 2022, 02:37
So, how much of an original car (most any car) would it take to make two or more "original" cars. In other words, could one take one original Bugatti, disassemble it into halves or thirds and re-create two or three Bugattis? This is kind of asking about how amoeba reproduce, or coning. Bodies of old cars are changed regularly, but how much of a car needs to be "original" parts to be called "original" and authentic?
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Martin Schroeder
19 Marzo 2022, 14:38
I first met Ray Jones in one of his SSKs at a historic race at the Travering. Northern Germany in 1975, I visited him in his Florida Keys workshop in 1985 and I would be most grateful for his present address, phone number or mail.
Thanks and

Kind Regards

Martin Schoeder
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Michael
04 Giugno 2020, 19:01
But one thing, he was the first to build five t35 out of two or three. He also cloned Mercedes SSKs, so we now have more SSK s existing with original parts than produced.
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PATRICK JEAN-PHILIPPE
01 Giugno 2020, 06:29
Ray Jones was a visionary, he thought well ahead of the times to save major chunks of Bugatti’s legacy and he committed to it too ! It was a rather risky move, not for the faint hearted ! Ray and his sons have done a lot for the preservation of Bugatti’s legacy. I would consider the major cars they rebuilt from original parts as originals _ aside perhaps on bodywork and in some cases fuel tanks _ as many of these cars were dis-assembled during the war so that they would not fall in the hands of the Germans. Ray and his sons have simply embarked on a huge, delicate and painstaking work of sorting all these mixed-up parts into lots which could allow them to re-assemble _ yes re-assemble _ some major pièces from the original works compétition department cars. A job which I believe they have managed with honour.

I believe that Ray Jones should be thanked and given a high accolade and an award for what he did for the Bugatti community worldwide. It is unfortunate to note that this man who has done so much is frowned upon perhaps because of jealousy, rather than elevated to the rank of hero which he fully deserves.
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Sconosciuto
22 Agosto 2015, 14:49
I would hope that the photo in which the Bugatti airplane is depicted has been made available to those trying to re-construct the original! It must definitely have some considerable relevance to the 'planes history.
I am not too concerned about the exact definition of the car. At least Ray Jones saved a lot of parts that would have otherwise gone to scrap and his 'replica' or reconstruction, being mainly original parts is OK by me. Good for him for doing what he did when he did. In any case, I do not think what a Bugatti is - or was - originally seems to matter much any more.
By now it is definitely a case of '100 built', 300 known to exist. Also, I do not think that this car falls into the usual definition that decides if the car is a 'real' Bugatti, that is the one defined by the B.O.C. as having three main original components. It is probably as real as most racing 'Bugatti's' that are around!
I have been able to have a good look at a 'Pur Sang' as a friend owns one and, though very nice, they seem to lack the 'delicacy' of an original. I cannot exactly explain why.

Regards, Peter.
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Sconosciuto
13 Agosto 2015, 18:59
Does a Pur Sang Bugatti drive less than a original one? And $$$$ is no object here.
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Sconosciuto
13 Agosto 2015, 14:28
what a pity Ray hasn't responded to this debate.
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Sconosciuto
13 Agosto 2015, 00:33
All - thanks for the comments. Ray Jones is definitely American, stationed in France in the war, came back to the USA then returned. I am told the car in the photo is original with racing history with a Count, surname sounded Polish so I'll not even try to spell it. The engine is a huge 8 cal twin cam (correct Bill!). I saw Ray and his (then) young bride pictured by the Bugatti airplane also, great big cannon mounted down the prop shaft same as a German ME109 so I guess that was not destined to be a racer after all.
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robert dale axelrod
12 Agosto 2015, 19:47
fantastic car!! keep up the good work!
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Sconosciuto
12 Agosto 2015, 13:14
Here is another part of the story :
http://www.postandcourier.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?date=20071020&category=ARCHIVES&lopenr=310209939&Ref=AR
also :
http://www.kustomrama.com/index.php?title=Raymond_Jones
Stuart
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Sconosciuto
12 Agosto 2015, 09:40
So is this classed as a Bugatti or a modern reproduction using period parts? It's an old chestnut I know but it seems to me (on the face of this article) that there is no original car and identity but a well crafted assemblage of the right parts.
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william hearne
12 Agosto 2015, 09:23
The car in question looks to be a circa 1932 Grand Prix Type 54 which has a 4.9 litre twin cam engine.
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Sconosciuto
12 Agosto 2015, 06:52
He moved from the USA to France?… or from France to the USA?
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Sconosciuto
12 Agosto 2015, 05:48
Is n't the gentleman called Ray Jones?
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Sconosciuto
12 Agosto 2015, 03:18
It's a typo: should read RAY Jones. A legendary figure on these shores. Looking forward to hearing more in the comments.
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