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An Overdrive (!/?) Transmission Mystery (no: Winton! )
One of our frequent US visitors sends photos of a very nice, yet unidentified gearbox.
"I write to you for your dearest help. My garage spit forth this all aluminum 4 speed OVERDRIVE transmission in nearly New /No Wear condition. The all-aluminum case is a high quality one piece casting with the frame mounting holes 13 X 17.5 inches on center. The shafts ride on ball bearings and are housed in cast bronze end caps that have provisions for setting the end play of the two main transmission shafts. The number 5139A is stamped on top of the case along with the initials J.C.R. The construction and fit and finish is of the highest quality. The transmission has a French flavor and "appears " to be circa 1907 to 1914."
Anyone out there with knowledge on french edwardian overdrive transmissions....?
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martedì novembre 19th, 2013
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Sconosciuto
26 Novembre 2013, 00:25
Sconosciuto
24 Novembre 2013, 02:00
Hey william ...
I'll go along with your smart direct-drive one-four, even if 99 has to be rounded ahead of a floating decimal point or two ... but I (marros) would dearly appreciate your advice on contacting which of Spud's inheritees, to spring the OD engine (AT clear.net.nz) ... which motor this OD box will power Percy's lovely worm-drive axle to perfection, then we're home and proverbially hosed, the frame looking fab too.... hope you're both enjoying good health in that lovely victorian garrett with the odd bottle of Kiwi Kim Crawford wine "with friendly benefits" - the rambling rose
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I'll go along with your smart direct-drive one-four, even if 99 has to be rounded ahead of a floating decimal point or two ... but I (marros) would dearly appreciate your advice on contacting which of Spud's inheritees, to spring the OD engine (AT clear.net.nz) ... which motor this OD box will power Percy's lovely worm-drive axle to perfection, then we're home and proverbially hosed, the frame looking fab too.... hope you're both enjoying good health in that lovely victorian garrett with the odd bottle of Kiwi Kim Crawford wine "with friendly benefits" - the rambling rose
william hearne
22 Novembre 2013, 13:22
[quote name="Mike"]This is a British-built gearbox fitted to gear up the transmission in a batch of worm-drive cars made just before WW1 ... it's the last part needed in my 1914 chassis, so why not buy an advertisement on this website and I'll kickstart a four-figure bid.
Mike[/quote]
Would that four figure bid be $14.99
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Mike[/quote]
Would that four figure bid be $14.99
Sconosciuto
21 Novembre 2013, 22:02
The four speed O/D transmission is definitely not a Winton. All Winton gearboxes that featured O/D had a multiple disc clutch INSIDE the gear box. It is a great box ,but definitely not Winton
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Sconosciuto
21 Novembre 2013, 10:49
Awww, Alistair Dray you flatter a man just enough for the old fella to type another line... but his memory for commercially-sensitive info is absolutely appalling....at least until his grand bid scores a thing *hehe*
Plse pass fond felicitations to Ms Bren: former (TB26) Daimler owner Mr Rose recalls an Edwardian Daimler gearbox is clamped to a coupla cross-tubes, not bolted to longitudinal subframe members which is clearly what this box needs
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Plse pass fond felicitations to Ms Bren: former (TB26) Daimler owner Mr Rose recalls an Edwardian Daimler gearbox is clamped to a coupla cross-tubes, not bolted to longitudinal subframe members which is clearly what this box needs
Sconosciuto
21 Novembre 2013, 08:28
Well I don't know if its overdrive or not. But I do know there was a 1908 Daimler model, 5.5 litres, which had a direct-drive 3rd gear and overdrive 4th gear. One lives up the road from me here in NZ.
I want Mike, reply number 2, to fill in the details - he sounds like he knows the most so far
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I want Mike, reply number 2, to fill in the details - he sounds like he knows the most so far
Sconosciuto
21 Novembre 2013, 06:10
I believe this is actually the second time I have identified this transmission! Previously at the Bakersfield California Swap Meet for G.W. the owner. It is Winton. The input shaft is pictured on the right and is indeed a 4 speed with over drive 4th. Very unusual gear layout and shift pattern. Reverse to left and forward, first speed left and back, second center and forward, third center and back, fourth right and back.
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Sconosciuto
21 Novembre 2013, 05:43
Napier usually had their gearbox numbers stamped with a "G" prefix ie. G123
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David Haywood
20 Novembre 2013, 18:26
The quality is worthy of Daimler or Napier. The keyway system on shafts is reminiscent of Edwardian/early vintage era.
Sometimes square shafts were used in quality gearboxes.
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Sometimes square shafts were used in quality gearboxes.
Sconosciuto
20 Novembre 2013, 17:18
Likewise - although I think it is just an ordinary three speed gearbox. From the left the gear can move forward to engage internally with the constant mesh input gear for top (direct) gear, or backward to engage second gear. The next gear has only one layshaft gear to engage with to give bottom gear and the gears below deal with reverse.
Mike
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Mike
Sconosciuto
20 Novembre 2013, 08:28
This is a British-built gearbox fitted to gear up the transmission in a batch of worm-drive cars made just before WW1 ... it's the last part needed in my 1914 chassis, so why not buy an advertisement on this website and I'll kickstart a four-figure bid.
Mike
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Mike
Sconosciuto
20 Novembre 2013, 02:41
HMMMM:, OD? I'm thinking just a good old tranny with 4 speeds, gotta check my brass cars and see....but does have that "French Flavor, let me get back to you all later after I crawl under something French, (1914 Peugeot)and possibly take off the top to see. and it's darned cold out there....Keith
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(typed after the Ozzie read....)
$14.99 ??? hmmm... they know how to charge at Tesco's ...
At Pak-n-Save Glen Innes, McGuigan's is rstill only 8.95 ... but I s'pose that IS B4 getting into overdraft 4th gear
:-)