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Un mistero Alfa Romeo e Zagato
Oggi è ripresa la ricerca di un’auto che avevamo identificato per la prima volta nel 2012: un’Alfa Romeo 8C. Recentemente abbiamo ricevuto un’e-mail da un consulente di Zagato, Italia, contenente nuove informazioni sull’auto e una richiesta di assistenza per proseguire le ricerche.
In allegato un’immagine di un’Alfa 8C Monza con numero di telaio 2111038. Fu costruita nel ’37 e dotata di carrozzeria Zagato. Partecipò alla Mille Miglia con il numero di gara 145. Successivamente ricevette una affascinante nuova carrozzeria aerodinamica ed fu esposta allo stand Zagato o Alfa Romeo al Salone dell’Auto di Milano (aprile ’37). Poco dopo fu nuovamente trasformata in una 8C 2300 Monza “standard”. Partecipò ancora alla Mille Miglia nel 1938, questa volta con il numero 150. Da quel momento in poi, la sua storia diventa incerta.
Stiamo cercando di determinare se l’auto raffigurata in questa immagine, da noi pubblicata in precedenza (e che sembra presentare carrozzeria Zagato), sia effettivamente il telaio 2111038 oppure un’altra vettura.
Questa “dovrebbe” essere un’Alfa Romeo 8C 2300 con numero di telaio 2111027. In origine era una 8C Spider Corto che partecipò alla 24 Ore di Spa nel ’32. Successivamente fu trasformata in un coupé aerodinamico e poi in una roadster aerodinamica.
La domanda è: l’auto in questa immagine corrisponde a “2111038” oppure ci riferiamo in realtà a un’altra vettura? Cari esperti Alfa Romeo e Zagato, qualcuno può aiutarci?
Il Mistero milanese del giorno bisestile pubblicato nel 2012 è disponibile qui.
Pubblicato originariamente il 22 settembre 2020
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mercoledì marzo 25th, 2026
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Jack Braam Ruben
26 Marzo, 10:31
It would be nice to get more information. I have owned # 027 for 25 years now. Provenance will remain the key word in our hobby.
One picture shows the car that won the 1932 Spa 24 hours (# 053) rebodied as a Coupe by Touring. # 027 arrived in 2nd place and was rebodied as a Coupe as well but by Zagato. Quitte a coincidence, the cars are standing side to side. Both were rebodied to their original specs. Fortunately the great Touring body is still alive. The Zagato Coupe body was lost and received yet another (3rd) body apparently again by Zagato. I see too many differences. You would think these are two different bodies. Would love to see the 2.9 with the 3rd Zagato version of the body of #027 and to hear if some of the original panels would still be available. JBR
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One picture shows the car that won the 1932 Spa 24 hours (# 053) rebodied as a Coupe by Touring. # 027 arrived in 2nd place and was rebodied as a Coupe as well but by Zagato. Quitte a coincidence, the cars are standing side to side. Both were rebodied to their original specs. Fortunately the great Touring body is still alive. The Zagato Coupe body was lost and received yet another (3rd) body apparently again by Zagato. I see too many differences. You would think these are two different bodies. Would love to see the 2.9 with the 3rd Zagato version of the body of #027 and to hear if some of the original panels would still be available. JBR
Mike Thomas
22 Settembre 2020, 15:36
Whilst on the subject of missing Alfa Romeo 8c's, in August 1956 an almost identical vehicle to that illustrated but with a beautiful carvel tulip wood body and two dicky seats was available for the princely sum of £800 at a garage in Bromley, Kent. Having myself just acquired a 1930 Aston Martin International for £410 unfortunately I was spent out. I've often wandered what happened to it and scanned historic automobile records without success -
hopefully it survives. Does anyone know ?
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hopefully it survives. Does anyone know ?
Mrs. Mary Frances Humphris
05 Marzo 2024, 16:20
My father Mr. Jack Hayward purchased the Alfa Romeo 8C 2300 with registration EYL 137, chassis 2111027, (as shown in the photo) in the 1950s for £495. I have a picture of the advertisement. He then spent many years restoring it to its original body, however, sadly he passed away in 2001 and the car was sold at auction. It is now located in Europe and has been fully restored. Again I have pictures of what it looks like now.
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Benjamin Ord
25 Marzo, 00:03
I am Jack Haywards grandson, son of Mary who's comment I am replying to, our family genuinely had this car in our possession (well because of the long-term dedication of my grandad) who finally proved that this car was the long lost alfa romeo... hard to believe I know... I couldn't believe it either but... ???? but if you want to know more, let me know.
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Stew Baylis
19 Settembre 2020, 10:50
EYL137 This number still attached to 1938 Red 3013cc Alfa according to DVLA . Records last updated 2009 So still around.
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Yannai Tobi
17 Settembre 2020, 22:16
It seems to me that these are two different bodies. The wings on the Zagato car 2111038 have a 'ridge' or a pointed section at the highest point (best seen in the front image), both front and rear wings. The other car, 2111027 seem to have wings which are completely round.
The doors on the Zagato car are considerably smaller than on the other car.
An interesting coincidence which draw my attention to this issue - it so happens that I have some of the original panels from car number 211107, that were not used when the body was fitted on the 8C2900 car 412011. See photo of the nice and unique louvered sill cover with the oil tank neck.
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The doors on the Zagato car are considerably smaller than on the other car.
An interesting coincidence which draw my attention to this issue - it so happens that I have some of the original panels from car number 211107, that were not used when the body was fitted on the 8C2900 car 412011. See photo of the nice and unique louvered sill cover with the oil tank neck.
Chanh Le Huy
15 Settembre 2020, 19:57
Hello all, Maybe an element of response is that the body in 2111038 at the 1937 Milano Salone and 2111027 after that show is the same. That body is now with 8C 2900 A 412011. A side to side photo comparison between 2111038 (left) and 2111027 IMO gives a good hint.
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