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Is the newly found 'oldest car in the world' real or a good pub story?

"The oldest car in the world" has been found in Germany. You may have read something about it recently. Many of you contacted us about this news item and queried why we hadn`t written about it on the website. This news really intrigued us, make no mistake. Like everyone else, we love barn finds and old cars but we also love good stories at the bar. And we wondered what to make of this recently found old car; is it really the oldest car in the world or just another good story based on hope and enthusiasm?

First, the story as we heard it for those who do not read German newspapers. Last year, a German collector bought a three-wheeler that had been sitting in a house in Leipzig, Germany, for many years. He bought it for a few hundred euros from the widow of the previous owner and when he and his friends took a closer look at the car, they noticed that it had a wooden chassis that had been built using early construction techniques. According to their initial interpretation, the car was most likely to have been built before 1890 and could even be one of the first prototypes of the Lutzmann system. This conclusion was based on the type of chassis (wood) and the paint colours. The car also came with a plate from a rally held in the 1950s. Would this car have taken part in this? And if so, what did the registration form say?

Reportedly, a team of scientists is currently examining the materials used to determine whether this vehicle was really made in 1890. But, as you may have already deduced, we find this hard to believe. We spoke to several experts on early cars and most of them believe that it is a later-built car, made from pieces that were lying around by a fanatical hobbyist. The engine, for example, seems far too modern for 1890. Anyway, it's a fantastic story and makes us all dream about the find of a lifetime.

Maybe one of our readers can give us more information about the history of the car, the construction method, the engine or even the rally. And we hope that we are wrong and that it turns out to be the real deal.

 

Source and photos: mdr.de

 

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martedì gennaio 11th, 2022
Marvin Mcfalls
23 Gennaio 2022, 02:06
The1884 De Dion Bouton Et Trepardoux is I believe the oldest known car still around. While this might be older, it might not.
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Peter Verweij
17 Gennaio 2022, 12:31
The Model of the car looks like the Lacroix & Delaville "La Nef" 1898. Lots of details are common. Wooden Chassis, three wheeler, position of radiator etc. Prototype or rebuild? Easy to find on the Internet.
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Jim Mead
16 Gennaio 2022, 16:05
Reminds me of the 1904 Brough a friend owns here in the US.
Built in Kansas for a mail carrier. Let’s say primitive rather than crude
because the Blacksmith who built it deserves a lot of credit. That car is
well documented and interesting in its own right. No need to embellish.
This example probably had a work life no less fascinating than the Brough.
Let’s hope the facts come out. Too much effort to be a lark, don’t you think?
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Ed Hosford
16 Gennaio 2022, 13:12
evidentially a `Bitza` metal work is modern steel not iron the smithing is appalling there is modern welding evident and of course modern pipe fittings on the exhaust system ( the last is acceptable if to get it running currently but not authentic )
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Tim
11 Gennaio 2022, 14:41
Hi,

also the front fork looks like it was taken from a later production motorcycle. At least not what you would expect from a scratch-built car built before 1890.

Best regards from Bremen
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henri
11 Gennaio 2022, 13:48
I don't know this car, but I have the same story to tell about a car that is for sale in Europe and that the seller says is from before 1900
For the discretion of the seller who is an old friend I will not say the make
And I know what I am talking about because I bought this car in 1970 from the grandchildren of the manufacturer,
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je ne connais pas cette voiture ,mais j'ai la meme histoire a raconter au sujet d'une voiture qui est en vente en Europe et que le vendeur dit d'avant 1900
Par discrétion pour le vendeur qui est un vieil ami je ne dirais pas la marque
Et je sais de quoi je parle puisque c'est moi qui ai acheté cette voiture en 1970 chez les petits enfants du constructeur ,
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Darryl Grey
11 Gennaio 2022, 12:01
Not very good for Leipzig streets as I remember them - it would have an enormous turning circle !
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Thomas A. Erler
11 Gennaio 2022, 10:12
Looking at the chain sprockets I would think a mix from later parts. Also engine, magneto and carburettor give hints for a much later date. Looking at the wooden parts I have a certain feeling it is rather crudely built. No real craftmanship, something that was unusal at that time. Maybe it was built for carneval in the early twenties? So far I do not think history has to be rewritten. But maybe I can see some inteded resemblance to mr. Cugnots contraption to mislead the viewer.

kind regards from wintery Tyrol.
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erler Thomas
11 Gennaio 2022, 10:32
Futhermore I think the rally plaque is much more late 1970 than from the fifties.
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volker wissemann
13 Gennaio 2022, 14:33
As far as I knwo the veteran section in the ADMV was founded in 1968, so it is presumably after this date, not before
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Bres Dominique
11 Gennaio 2022, 06:37
Hello,

You are wrong !
It is the lunar roving vehicule, back from the moon !

And don't ask me how i know it !
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