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A non-Bugatti 7-seater Mystery (update: 1915 Cadillac Model 51 )
Jaap Horst sends on this mystery photo he received from Canada (people who send photos to Jaap, always hope their photo is showing a Bugatti; check below why..). The original sender wrote: "This was my wife's grandparents' car circa 1920-30. First, is it a Bugatti and if not, what kind of car is it? She would love to know. Thank you. GB."
Well it's clear what it's not, now we just like to find out what this big tourer can be. As it is easy to say it's not a Bugatti, but we don't make a point if you tell what it really is, isn't it? Anybody can see it is a big car, presumably a seven seater, yet the twelve occupants don't seem uncomfortable. Not a lot to see of the round shouldered radiator. The side louvres made us think of a 1915 Apperson, the shape of the doors of a Lozier, but both drop off with this radiator. Maybe the answer is quite easy, yet we just don't know. The well developped body looks like made by one of the big manufacturers, so let's concentrate on the wheels and hubcaps. Sorry to say we have no larger resolution scan. So we have to depend on 'crowd sluething', of which you can be part, to save Jaap's reputation and ours.
P.S. be sure to check Jaap Horst's fabulous book on the Bugatti 100P Airplane.
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domenica novembre 3rd, 2013
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Axel
30 Novembre 2024, 17:07
Here’s another one in the Netherlands. Owen or Cadillac would be my guess.
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william hearne
04 Novembre 2013, 08:18
Can we ask G.B. from Canada now that you kind folk have identified her grand parents car to please mark the correct identification on the reverse of the print so that her future relatives will know otherwise the process will be repeated by the next generation.
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Sconosciuto
04 Novembre 2013, 06:17
Door- and hoodmodelling, cowllights, horn position, both locks beneath driver's door, all this makes me think it's a 1915 Cadillac type 51.
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Sconosciuto
04 Novembre 2013, 04:59
Is the "Kellner confusion" being confused with this car, which does bear a strong resemblance to a 1912 Hotchkiss AB ?
Stuart
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Stuart
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04 Novembre 2013, 03:08
Looks like a Cadillac to me. I'm going to say 1914, long-wheelbase model.
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Sconosciuto
04 Novembre 2013, 02:13
That's easy, it's a 1915 Cadillac Model 51. The details include the shape of louvers on lower hood, shape of horn, panel opening on side splash apron, barely perceptible bell shaped headlights and small cowl lights, ohh and distinctively shaped doors.
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Sconosciuto
04 Novembre 2013, 01:52
It sure looks like a Cadillacv to me, circa 1916-17.
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Sconosciuto
04 Novembre 2013, 01:51
It sure looks like a Cadillac to me, circa 1916-17.
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Sconosciuto
03 Novembre 2013, 23:30
Mr. Horst's picture captures what appears to me to be a nearly new 1915 Cadillac Model 51 7 passenger Touring Car. This model of course was the first of Cadillac's great V8 powered cars.
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