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A Holiday Caravan Towing Mystery (update: Sunbeam Twenty Five )
Chris Jones sends this nice holiday shot of his Grandparents before the war.
"They were keen caravaners and being motor dealers always chose a large tow car to take them on holiday from the available stock. I previously sent a photo of my Grandfather's brothers Thornycroft which was about the largest motorhome available before the war. Whilst the size of this car doesn't compare with this, it is a large vehicle. The question is, what is the tow car? "
Editor: first of all, the caravan looks very much like a mid twenties Eccles very similar to this example. The big towing car...Sunbeam perhaps? Further we are interested how far and how quick the Eccles users were. What kind of cruising speed was realistic? And did they ever leave the British Isles? As usual we love to see your comments.
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lunedì agosto 15th, 2016
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Harry Jack
29 Aprile 2018, 09:53
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19 Agosto 2016, 08:46
The caravan is an Eccles. I have other photos of it from the same trip. My Grandfather used a large Rolls Royce on one occassion to take it from Birmingham to Marazion in Cornwall. He detoured via Porlock Hill and was advised by the AA man at the bottom to go the long way round. Not taking any notice he pushed on up the hill in second gear! My Grandmother hated the use of the trade plates as they were always been told off by the local police, but never fined.
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18 Agosto 2016, 01:39
I agree with Matthew - this is a 20/60hp saloon of 1925 or 1926. It may look like a 25hp but the multi-piece windscreen, which was standard on the 20/60, was not offered on the 25hp cars.
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16 Agosto 2016, 18:12
As John Robbins mentions, the lates are 'Trade Plates'. The plates in the pic were known as 'General Plates' and could be used by anyone in the motor business for almost any purpose. They were distinguished as General Plates by being white letters and digits on a red background with a rectangular licence holder above. The simpler 'Limited Plates' were red lettered on a white background with a triangular licence holder. These could only be used with a 'chit' showing start and finish of trip and no passengers were allowed.
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16 Agosto 2016, 06:17
Looks to be a Sunbeam Twenty Five from the early 30s to me. As a long time caravan owner and tower, I would not expect flashing performance, not due to lack of power with such a car and relatively small caravan, but due to the suspension and towing equipment of the caravan encouraging the thing to rock and roll.
The number plate is a motor traders plate issued by the County Borough of Smethwick, then in Staffordshire, now in the West Midlands county since the 1974 boundary changes. Strictly, it should only be used "in connection with the trade of the plate's owner", but in those days I'm sure he would be able to talk his way out of such a minor offence, if anyone asked him about it. The plate covered the insurance and road tax of cars while being used by traders so that they didn't have to keep so much paperwork, and saved money in road tax.
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The number plate is a motor traders plate issued by the County Borough of Smethwick, then in Staffordshire, now in the West Midlands county since the 1974 boundary changes. Strictly, it should only be used "in connection with the trade of the plate's owner", but in those days I'm sure he would be able to talk his way out of such a minor offence, if anyone asked him about it. The plate covered the insurance and road tax of cars while being used by traders so that they didn't have to keep so much paperwork, and saved money in road tax.
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16 Agosto 2016, 01:31
The car is a Sunbeam 20/60hp 6-cylinder Saloon c.1925. Sunbeam's "Enclosed Limousine" looked pretty much identical, but I feel a family that towed a caravan wouldn't be employing a chauffeur.
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16 Agosto 2016, 00:09
1925/26 20/60 or 25HP Sunbeam, judging by the flat radiator and large sidelights.
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16 Agosto 2016, 00:05
Looks like a 1925/26 Sunbeam 20/60 or 25hp, judging by the flat radiator and large sidelights.
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