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Overtaking system on pre-war French trucks

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Although pre-war trucks are not that often a topic in your mailings, I find them pretty interesting. I own a 1940 Citroën U23 truck, ex French military with a fully documented history.


One of the parts that remained after restauration (I bought it completely dismantled) is some 25 cm big horn. It looks a bit like a claxon but it’s not. I finally found out that it’s supposed to be mounted in the cabine, pointing at the drivers’  ear.


I learned this is part of a system that used to have 2 horns; the second one to be mounted at the rear end of the truck, pointing backwards. The two were connected with a big hose, and a green light made the system complete.


The purpose of this system is for upcoming (faster) traffic to announce they want to pass this slow truck. The faster car blows his horn, the sound of which reaches the ear of the truck driver by means of the two horns. If the road is safe for taking over, the truck driver lights the small green light at the back of the truck, giving the faster driver the sign to step on the gas.


I found it very hard to find any documentation on this pre-war system, let alone the parts I miss to make mine complete.I only have 2 or 3 pictures of similar systems, coming from France. The brand involved could be Tirette.


If this topic is of any interest to you please do not hesitate to contact me. I’d be happy to share what I have and see what the cat brings in.

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The first photo (3966) is from a 1940 Citroën U23 scrapped for parts, ex armée Française. Credits Alain Chaussade .
This one is exactly the same as the horn I had left from my own car (also 1940, ex-armée). I can take detail photos of this if required.
The second is a very poor photo of a similar horn in a 1936 Citroën truck type 32 (converted immediately after the war from bus to truck, handmade wooden cab copied from a Berliet GDR).  The third photo shows the corresponding horn at the rear of the T32 and the fourth the corresponding green light operated from the cab. Photos 2-4 credit Ivan Lavallade.

 

Regards, Sander

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giovedì febbraio 15th, 2024
Tiit Talts
16 Febbraio 2024, 21:37
Sorry, here's a picture, too.
Tiit Talts
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Tiit Talts
16 Febbraio 2024, 21:36
Hello,
It is interesting. After reading the article I was looking on my RU 23 because there are similar holders. Could it be for the same reason?
Regards,
Tiit Talts
Estonia
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Peter Griffiths
16 Febbraio 2024, 13:39
Hello, thank you both for this wonderful information. I have searched for ages and found nothing, then all this information comes in one go—thank you. I had heard about the green overtaking lamp a while ago and recently bought one. I thought it would make a wonderful accessory on my (slow) 1928 French limousine! It's certainly a great talking point. Thank you again for the information.
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Les Six Troenes
15 Febbraio 2024, 14:42
This system is called “amplificateur de sons acoustique.” It also existed as “amplificateur de sons electrique”—see documentation from these 1934 and 1937 catalogues.

It looks to me like the green light was not part of this system. This green overtaking light seems to be a post-war system. See the picture from the 1952 catalogue. It may have been a signal from the truck driver to faster traffic behind the truck for possibility for overtaking. I cannot find any information about these in any of the many pre-war catalogues I have. The green light system seems to bhave been abandoned due to insurance claim problems, when truck drivers forgot to turn it off.
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