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The BT-TB Radiator Mystery (upd. Thompson Brothers)
John Skelton recently unearthed this radiator grill from his garage. Not knowing what it is from, he asked around and was advised that it was from a Bayliss-Thomas. He then checked the web, but could not place it to a particular model. Indeed, all the Bayliss-Thomas models we know have a square radiator, not pointed like this one. And furthermore we also doubt the Bayliss-Thomas connection, because of the lettering. In the Bayliss-Thomas logo (auto-logo.com) the ‘B’ is more prominent, while here it’s the ‘T’ that’s on top of the ‘B’. So we tend to think this radiator was fitted on a make that starts with a T, but we have no other clues. Can you help?
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domenica gennaio 22nd, 2012
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Sconosciuto
15 Aprile 2014, 22:53
I can confirm this radiator is for a TB three wheeler. I am currently rebuilding the remains of a 1922 example, which is missing the rediator. There is also the remains of a TB in the Black Country Museum, complete with radiator.
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Mark Longmore
19 Gennaio 2014, 16:14
Just came across this photo. I am restoring a TB 3 wheeler, and in need of a radiator, so could John Skelton please contact me. I can confirm the Black Country Museum has the remains of a TB, complete with radiator.
Mark Longmore
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Mark Longmore
Sconosciuto
31 Gennaio 2012, 01:23
El diccionario del autmovil dice tectualmente:marca de automoviles creada por la sociedad inglesa thompson brothers conocida y antigua fabrica de calderas.Inicio sus actividades en el año 1920 para terminar en 1924 fabrico un triciclo.
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Sconosciuto
31 Gennaio 2012, 01:11
El diccionario del automovil,dice tectualmente, T.B.marca de los automoviles creados por la sociedad inglesa Thompson Brothers,conocida y antigua fabrica de calderas.inicio sus actividades con los automoviles en el año 1920 para terminar en 1924 fabrico un triciclo.
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Sconosciuto
27 Gennaio 2012, 16:10
The one surviving TB cyclecar is the one that was held in the works. Some years ago the remains were dontated to the Black Country Living Museum at Dudley . I saw it there in 2005. I have a feeling it was missing a radiator. Michael
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R.Mawer
26 Gennaio 2012, 22:25
Yes,it is definitely a radiator from a TB 3 wheeler car.There is supposed to be a surviving example,which was owned by the company at one time.It has been claimed it was allowed to get into poor condition.The TB make is covered in quite a few books,I think.
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Sconosciuto
25 Gennaio 2012, 08:09
A picture of a TB 10hp car is to be found on Page 192 of Nick Baldwin's A-Z of Cars of the 1920s.
It appears to prove the suggestion made.
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It appears to prove the suggestion made.
Sconosciuto
24 Gennaio 2012, 15:19
My 2000 copy of Georgano indicates under Thompson Brothers that they had 'Bugatti shaped radiators' and it even has a picture confirming the radiator shape as in your photo.
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Sconosciuto
23 Gennaio 2012, 07:56
Try Thompson Brothers http://www.localhistory.scit.wlv.ac.uk/Museum/Transport/Cars/TB.htm
Google is an amazing source of stuff
Regards Tony
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Google is an amazing source of stuff
Regards Tony
Sconosciuto
23 Gennaio 2012, 07:16
It's from a Thompson Bros. three-wheeler, made from 1919 to 1924 in Bilston UK. This is of course from the water-cooled version from 1921 onwards, but they also marketed a cheaper air-cooled model.
As an option extra lightning was offered...
http://www.localhistory.scit.wlv.ac.uk/Museum/Transport/Cars/TB.htm
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As an option extra lightning was offered...
http://www.localhistory.scit.wlv.ac.uk/Museum/Transport/Cars/TB.htm
Sconosciuto
23 Gennaio 2012, 07:11
Accvording to my 1963 copy of Doyle/Georgano, TB was a three wheeler built by Thompson Brothers (Bilston) Ltd, Bradley Engine works, Bilston, Staffordshire from 1920 to 1924. I had never heard of it until I looked it up. Now all we have to do is find a pcture of one.
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Sconosciuto
23 Gennaio 2012, 02:33
Rutger,
The TB radiator is likely to be from the three wheeled TB Cyclecar dating from the early 1920's. These were made by Thompson Brothers of Staffordshire, UK. There are no known survivors - so far as I am aware.
Regards
Graeme Jarrett
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The TB radiator is likely to be from the three wheeled TB Cyclecar dating from the early 1920's. These were made by Thompson Brothers of Staffordshire, UK. There are no known survivors - so far as I am aware.
Regards
Graeme Jarrett
Sconosciuto
23 Gennaio 2012, 01:12
Perhaps not in all correct. The sign under the large T is not a B but a combination of the two letters: A seccond small T to the left of the vertikal line of the large T + a small B to the right of it. Your conclution is however correct - the initials of the car manufacturer must be TB.
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Sconosciuto
23 Gennaio 2012, 00:23
On the other hand it could be a Beatrix Tisserand (Cyclecar Paris 1907-08)
Stuart
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Stuart
Sconosciuto
23 Gennaio 2012, 00:15
The only TB I could find was for a Tony Bouley (Cycle car built in paris 1920-21), but no pictures so far.
http://philippe.boursin.perso.sfr.fr/autohi3d.htm
Stuart Penketh
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http://philippe.boursin.perso.sfr.fr/autohi3d.htm
Stuart Penketh