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Was Jakarta Delahaye a Figoni & Falaschi?

Reader Rob Mellaart from The Netherlands recently showed us a photograph that really got us excited. The picture in question was taken by his late father who worked as a director for Philips abroad and who had a great passion for classic cars. He made this shot while in Jakarta, Indonesia back in 1975 and Rob remembers he was eager to buy the car, although he didn’t do that in the end. What a pity!

Information on the vehicle in question is somewhat limited but Rob knows it was a Delahaye, probably a type 135 of around 1938 but that's it. We can ad that it’s a short chassis car – perhaps a competition model? The body itself certainly does not come in your everyday style either. It seems as if the wings are meant to have spats, fully closing them in dramatic teardrop style. This would certainly give the car different looks. Is it a Figoni & Falaschi? The doors – or actually the lack of them – seems odd though.

Rob adds: “My dad would have wanted to buy the car but others came on his way and he had to choose. He found a Bugatti Type 37 in Singapore and a Spyker in Indonesia and bought these instead. The latter wore its original body when he bought it, but he got rid of it and had a new speedster body made. Many years later the car ended up in the collection of the Louwman Museum. When they found out the Speedster body was not the car’s original one, they immediately removed it and had a new one made in the style of the original! Fact is there was plenty to discover in those days!”

Like ourselves, Rob would be keen to learn more about the Delahaye his dad so nearly bought. So, to everyone - could this car survive?

Words by Jeroen Booij. Picture Rob Mellaart.

 

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mercoledì aprile 22nd, 2020
JEAN-PAUL TISSOT
28 Aprile 2020, 14:18
J'avoue et reconnais un certain flou sur ces 13 modèles 135 Figoni & Falaschi dit "salon de Paris 1936 ", 11 roadsters et 2 coupés !!
Mais qui pourrait nous en dire plus sur cette voiture de Jakarta ? les ailes avant et arrière et le capot semblent bien d'origine...
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The PreWarCar.com Team
28 Aprile 2020, 15:06
Translation:

I admit and recognize a certain vagueness on these 13 models 135 Figoni & Falaschi said "Paris 1936 salon", 11 roadsters and 2 coupés !!
But who could tell us more about this Jakarta car? The front and rear fenders and the hood seem to be original ...
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Hans Veenenbos
27 Aprile 2020, 21:11
Compliments to Doctor Alfa for his eye-witness report on this India car.
From what I gather, on this locally built lookalike, not even the chassis was worth saving.
So Agg/Crailville have really messed things up with the replicas that they built, using this India wreck as a reference.
Anybody else who wants to add to the subject?
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Doctor Alfa
26 Aprile 2020, 16:03
I might inject that the chassis to ''49150'' as it's come to be known was never exported from India by Agg. The remains of a ''Figoni type'' body was exported, the chassis left behind, and Peter Agg then purchased a few Post-War Delahayes to be modified and fitted with his series of replica Figoni cars. One of which is in the Mullin Collection, that Crailville executed. Having been there at the time, the ''India'' car shown was far from any Figoni I've seen. It sported a complete Teak wooden body frame, no ash and none of the metal was anything that Figoni would have used. Hence, none of it was used. It was not done to any level of the work of Figoni and little if any of that ''India Version'' was used in the car you see today (twice restored) . In fact, I removed the body makers tags from the coachwork. There were no figoni triangle 3 nails ever to support a real figoni tag. I removed oval tags bearing 'Old Calcutta Coachworks'. The remains of the India body survived in a crate where there was no evidence of the genuine Figoni markings and no evidence on any of the remains of the chrome - which would have sported a Figoni number. I examined the ''built'' car before it was purchased with a crate of old-non-usable parts from India and I determined that nothing, including the chassis survived on the build that Agg commissions. On course since those eye witnessed facts, a few books were written by non-expert experts on the Agg-Mullin car to give it ''catalog value'' and the illusion that if you read it, it must be true.
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Hans Veenenbos
22 Aprile 2020, 21:12
Wow !!! Ross - looks superb - you and your late father truly did a super job at building an absolutely correct competition car.

Cheers, Hans
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Jeroen Booij
22 Aprile 2020, 21:07
Thank you very much gentleman. It may have looked indeed like a straight link to the Peter Agg car, and that sketchy picture certainly seemed to strengthen the theory. But then there's the India connection rather than an Indonesian one and there's the double row of louvres as indicated by Hans Veenenbos. I would love to think the possibility of this being another car is quite high.
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Ross Keeling
22 Aprile 2020, 17:38
Hans yes you could be correct as to being a short chassis. A rough measure using the wheel/brake drum as a scale put s the wheel base in the range of a short chassis car.
Yes, I do own a short chassis competition car, not an original works car but what a lovely car to drive and race it is. It took me and my late father 10 years to build and sort out.
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Kees Boosman
22 Aprile 2020, 22:29
The dashboard has no holes in it for instruments and the steering column looks completely unsupported; I think it is an unfinished project.
They used parts of the/an original body: wings, bonnet and possibly rear end and made up a new middle section. By the looks of it they shortened the chassis in the process. especially the rear wings look way out of proportion now.

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JEAN-PAUL TISSOT
22 Aprile 2020, 17:17
Cher Hans,

Tu as tout à fait raison, j'allais dire la même chose que toi pour les ouies de capot !
J'ai été un peu trop vite dans ma 1ère réaction !!
Je n'avais pas vérifié avec la photo de 49150 aux Indes
Cela reste donc un mystère... un de plus sur cette série des modèles "salon de Paris 1936"
A suivre...
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The PreWarCar.com Team
23 Aprile 2020, 11:27
Translation:

Dear Hans,

You are absolutely right, I was going to say the same thing as you for the hood gills!
I was a little too quick in my first reaction !!
I had not checked with the photo of 49150 in India
It remains a mystery... one more on this series of models "Paris salon 1936"
To be continued...
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Hans Veenenbos
22 Aprile 2020, 15:39
Jean-Paul, j'ai vérifié maintenant la photo prise a Jakarta avec les anciennes photos de la 49150 aux Indes, et j'ai conclue que la voiture a Jakarta n'est définitivement pas la 49150. La raison est simple: les cotés du capot moteur de la 49150 avaient dans les photos d'époque une double rangée de ouies et sur la voiture a Jakarta il y a qu'une seule rangée avec ouies plus grosse.
A suivre alors cette mystère.
Amicalement, Hans
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The PreWarCar.com Team
23 Aprile 2020, 11:39
Translation:

Jean-Paul, I have now checked the photo taken in Jakarta with the old photos of the 49150 in India, and I have concluded that the car in Jakarta is definitely not the 49150. The reason is simple: the sides of the engine cover of the 49150 had in the vintage photos a double row of gills and on the car in Jakarta there is only one row with larger gills.
To follow this mystery then.
Sincerely, Hans
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Hans Veenenbos
22 Aprile 2020, 14:53
Jean-Paul, tu es certain que c'est la 49150?
Evidemment je connais bien son histoire, mais si la photo sur prewarcar était bien prise a Jakarta par Karel Mellaart, cela ne correspond pas avec la 49150 aux Indes, voir photo.
La photo envoyé par Rob me semble vraiment prise en Indonésie (voir les maisons derriere) et pas aux Indes, mais je peux me tromper.
Peut-etre la voiture avait quitté l'Indonésie et exporte aux Indes entre 1975 et 1986?
Ou est la preuve que c'est la 49150?
Je sais que tous les FiFa Geo Ham ont été bien répertorié.
Amicalement, Hans
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The PreWarCar.com Team
23 Aprile 2020, 11:41
Translation:

Jean-Paul, are you sure it's the 49150?
Obviously I know its history well, but if the photo on prewarcar was well taken in Jakarta by Karel Mellaart, it does not correspond with the 49150 in India, see photo.
The photo sent by Rob seems to me really taken in Indonesia (see the houses behind) and not in India, but I can be wrong.
Perhaps the car had left Indonesia and exported to India between 1975 and 1986?
Where is the proof that it is the 49150?
I know that all the FiFa Geo Hams have been well listed.
Sincerely, Hans
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JEAN-PAUL TISSOT
22 Aprile 2020, 11:45
Chers Amis,

Il s'agit tout simplement de la DELAHAYE 135 roadster Figoni & Falaschi # 49150 acheté en épave par Peter AGG en 1986, restaurée une première fois, puis vendue à Peter MULLIN qui fait une seconde restauration, elle est aujourd'hui dans sa collection
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The PreWarCar.com Team
23 Aprile 2020, 11:48
Translation:

Dear friends,

It is simply the DELAHAYE 135 roadster Figoni & Falaschi # 49150 bought as a wreck by Peter AGG in 1986, restored the first time, then sold to Peter MULLIN who does a second restoration, it is now in his collection
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Hans Veenenbos
22 Aprile 2020, 11:36
I have had a closer look at the photos of the J. van Kooy FiFa Geo Ham car and here are some observations:
1. The J. van Kooy car had no louvres in the top of the bonnet and so does the Jakarta car - they also both had a light coloured bonnet.
2. On the J. van Kooy car the louvres in the side panels of the bonnet don't extend as far back as on the Jakarta car - but they did both have 3 bonnet catches in the same places.
3. The top of the bonnet of the J. van Kooy car swept up in the middle (where the hinge is) towards the windscreen - no sign of this on the Jakarta car.
4. The moulding on the top of the bonnet side panel does seem to agree with a FiFa Geo Ham design feature.
5. The lines of the wings do seem to agree with a FiFa Geo Ham style body.
6. It appears that the entire middle piece of the body is a later replacement - perhaps for competition purposes?
7. Finally, I disagree with Ross's observation that this appears to be a standard wheelbase car - it is definitely shorter than the standard length (I have 2, but so does Ross, I believe).
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Hans Veenenbos
22 Aprile 2020, 10:06
Are there perhaps any other photos of this car to help identification?
It definitely looks like a F&F Geo Ham design on the 135 short chassis Delahaye.
There was such a car in the Netherlands and for sale at J. van Kooy in Den Dolder in early 1939.
Who knows if this is the same car which ended up in this deplorable condition in Jakarta.
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Ross Keeling
22 Aprile 2020, 09:43
Looking at the width of the cockpit, the rear spring hangers and the length of the steering column I would say it is a normal long chassis car.
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